M-G: 8.28.15 // Angels & Demons: Creation and Fall (a sidebar to the Heaven-Bent series), Part 1

It is amazing to me that books are written about angels based more on lore and legend than facts. In actuality we know very little about them from the Scriptures, the only true and reliable source of angelic knowledge (cf. 2 Tim 3:16). I am not denying a person’s experience of being in contact with angels. We just have to base it on what we know about them from Scripture than declaring a thing true due to an experience that may prove to be unreliable. I have said this and will continue to say that we look at life and interpret it through the lens of Scripture, not the other way around. The Word of God is the supreme and final authority in all matters of faith and practice, not our experiences. I cannot stress the importance of this if you claim to be a Biblicist.

When was the last time you saw an angel? You can’t see them or sense their presence, but there have been times you dodged something that could have turned ugly because something or someone intervened on your behalf (seen or unseen). We all could probably relate to this. To always explain away things like this as being very fortunate, just dumb-luck, chance, dodged a bullet, destiny, kismet, fate, karma, or however you want to say it other than providence for a believer is unsatisfactory. For a believer there is the comforting truth of Rom 8:28. God is in control and on the throne. Nothing enters our life without His permission or orchestration, absolutely nothing. Moving on, there is a high possibility we might have even entertained an angel without even knowing it (Heb 1:14; 13:2)?!

Good angels may even pose as a traveler or whatever, but will never participate in ungodly behavior or act in any way with the intention of misleading us to do something contrary to the Scriptures. Good angels are messengers of God for good who execute God’s bidding (the why) for whoever, whatever, whenever, wherever, down to the how of it in strict accordance with God’s will, with no tolerance for deviation or variation to the Divine objective. Violating God’s Word or failure is not an option. Their response to God’s will is always immediate and complete.

I can figuratively say I married an angel (a sweetie pie), and my wife would probably say, “Ah,” but in reality, she is not literally an angel, the one with wings, nor a pie for that matter! Angels remain mysterious and virtually unknown, and there is another class of angels that are anything but a sweetie pie; you know them as demons. I envision all good angels to be very tall in stature (8′+) and very powerful spiritual warriors either in real form (cf. 2 Kgs 19:35) or transformed into normal human form (cf. Gn 19:11). We take the scattered data concerning angels in the Scripture and piecemeal together some kind of understanding about them. Thus, the time of their creation and when a large portion of them fell are derived from inference based on scant data.

All of these ghost stories you see on TV or read about of people who are convinced it has to be the spirit of a deceased loved one because they are persuaded that such intimate information could only have been derived from them is some very evil stuff. This deception is coming from demonic mimicry; a lost soul is entombed in hell; only demons reach out to ignorant and vulnerable family members that the loved one’s spirit is alive and roaming. None of these demons behind deceiving family members are up to any good for there is no good in them. They are part of the fallen group of angels that followed Lucifer down a dark and destructive path, and they are hell-bent on taking it out on humankind; there are no nice bad angels! 

This is Demonology 101. We as believers should not be ignorant of Satan’s devices (2 Cor 2:11) and put on the whole armor of God to stand against the wiles of the devil (Eph 6:11). It is the Word of God that unmasks for us Satan’s schemes. Ignorance of Scripture veils a lot of evil leading to destruction through the deception of the gullible.

Though we can’t precisely pinpoint the creation and fall of angels with certainty, we can get sort of a general idea of the when factor of both. Angels had a beginning (Ezek 28:13) and are not eternal in the sense that God, who is without beginning, is eternal (Psa 90:2). When these creatures came into existence is debated. The two main schools of thought on when the angels were created are (1) sometime in eternity past before Day 1 of creation week, and (2) during creation week itself. There are two interesting observations found in Job 38:4-6, 7, particularly verse 7 that may offer us a clue to the origin of angels and rule out a possibility of when they might have fallen,

“Where were you [Yahweh asking Job] when I laid the foundations of the earth? [v4a]... And all the sons of God shouted for joy [v7b]?” (emphasis mine).

The phrase, “sons of God,” is referred to as angels in Job 1:6. Angels were already in existence on Day 1 of creation week. Some even assert that angels existed before creation going back even to “eons in eternity.” I don’t know about that nor does anyone else on this side of eternity, but I am of the opinion that their existence at least preceded creation week at some juncture, time being irrelevant, of course, in eternity.

Whenever Yahweh answered Job out of the whirlwind (Job 38:1), His words did not indicate that the angels were created on Day 1. He only mentioned their response in witnessing the incredible display of His power when the foundations of the earth were laid. The presence of the angels strongly suggests that all of the angels were in existence before Day 1 of creation week. Again, just how long they have been in existence prior to the Day 1 event is anybody’s guess.

Notice the clause in Job 38:7, All [emphasis mine] the sons of God shouted for joy.” If the word all includes all of the angels, including Lucifer, how inclusive is all? It encompasses millions upon millions, perhaps billions of angels (Dan 7:10; Heb 12:22; Rev 5:11), “ten thousand times ten thousand, or more literally, myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands.” The Greek word, murias, translated as ten thousand" is also translated as innumerable” (Lk 12:1; Heb 12:22). In other words, we are talking about a number beyond calculation, requiring more than taking off our shoes and socks to employ our toes calculator to figure it out! 

Suffice it to say in succinct southern style, there were on Day 1 a bunch of angels watching Yahweh do some amazing things! It is natural to assume that all refer to the all-angelic jubilation during the inauguration of the earth. It would be artificial and forced to consider the word “all” as exclusive of good angels, suggesting that demons were already in existence prior to creation based on what we know, which admittedly is very little.

Lucifer and his winged followers had not rebelled since their unknown precise point of origin until after Day 6 of creation week sometime between Day 7 and before Gen 3:1 with the approach/attack of the serpent. Why do I say that the angels hadn't fallen before creation week? Look at Job 38:7 once again.

All the sons of God shouted for joy [emphasis mine].

How did the sons of God (angels) shout? For joy when the foundation of the earth was being laid! This intimates all of the angels were on board with God’s will! Where do we ever read anywhere in Scripture of demons (fallen angels) expressing joy over God’s will?! Demons (never referred to as sons of God) are all about doing just the exact opposite, diminishing God’s glory as much as possible, enticing man to do something contrary to God’s Word: questioning, ignoring, denying, rejecting, or rebelling. It is an attack on getting people to disagree (sin against God) with God (cf. 1 Jn 1:9, confess = agree). 

Now I realize this is a main argument from some conservatives who believe angels were created during creation week. How could God say, “Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good” (Gn 1:31) if a supposed third of an innumerable amount of angels had fallen already? This seems reasonable to me if the angels were created during creation week, but we are talking about a lot of angels here. And a third of this countless host of angels fell in a couple of days or weeks since their creation? Hmm. One other thing is that the phrase “very good” has a reference to creation week. If angels existed prior to that event then technically the assessment of “very good” by Yahweh had nothing to do with angelic beings at all.

What made Lucifer go insanely rogue on Yahweh is conjecture. Apparently, he had a problem with pride (1 Tim 3:6) and self-ambition, “I will make myself like the Most High” (Isa 14:14). What was Lucifer thinking?? God is all-knowing!! What is interesting is that after unrighteousness was detected in Lucifer (Ezek 28:15), from what I can gather, we see him next going after Eve (Gn 3:1). Clearly, things are about to hit the fan, and the world will never be the same. <><


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